flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range
The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure. This entry explains how to confirm the cause, apply the fix, and separate it from adjacent numerics failures.
flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range means The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure. Preserve the first preceding error, then run the targeted control below.
- Symptom
flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range- Root cause
- The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure. The decisive evidence is the first log line that precedes "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" and differs from a healthy run.
- Recommended fix
- reject the non-finite step, restore the last finite checkpoint, and run the batch in BF16 while recording the FP8 amax and scale values.
- How Denpex helps
- Denpex investigates flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range using the evidence you provide or your connected workload collects. Earlier rank, host or application evidence is needed to distinguish an initiating failure from a downstream report.
What this failure is
The literal signature is "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range". It is a training stability failure associated with mixed precision, gradient scaling, and numerical kernels. The line identifies the failing operation or subsystem, while the surrounding evidence decides whether it is the initiating fault or a downstream symptom.
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Why it happens (the mechanism)
The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure. The failure becomes visible at this call site because the operation first requires the missing resource, valid state, healthy peer, or correct result. Earlier log lines and a known-good control carry more causal value than the final wrapper exception.
What you'll observe
- The workload stops or loses forward progress after emitting "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range".
- A retry on the same configuration reproduces the failure because the causal state has not changed.
- The outer framework exception can hide the rank, node, allocation, or dependency that failed first.
- Increasing timeouts or reducing workload size can suppress the symptom without correcting the cause.
Common symptoms and what they mean
| Symptom | Why it happens |
|---|---|
| flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range | The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure. |
| The same operation fails at a consistent stage of mixed precision, gradient scaling, and numerical kernels. | The decisive evidence is the first log line that precedes "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" and differs from a healthy run. |
| The first related warning appears before the final exception and names the causal subsystem. | A nearby failure remains a competing hypothesis until a control separates configuration, capacity, transport, and hardware causes. |
| A known-good control changes one variable and either reproduces or clears the failure. | The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure. |
Which systems are affected
- mixed precision, gradient scaling, and numerical kernels
- production-shaped multi-accelerator workloads
- containerized and bare-metal deployments of the same stack
How to confirm this is the problem
Use this checklist to test the hypothesis against a small reproduction. No single line proves the root cause, so preserve the preceding events and compare one variable at a time.
- ✓Find the first occurrence of "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" and preserve at least 100 lines before it.
- ✓Identify which rank, node, device, or process emitted the first related warning.
- ✓locate the first zero, infinite, or stale scale and verify the delayed-scaling history and update interval. Compare the same tensors with BF16 attention.
- ✓Repeat the same input after the targeted change and require the signature to disappear.
- ✓Resume from last checkpoint before the first FP8 non-finite result only after the control passes.
Root cause
- The FP8 attention scale or its reciprocal left the representable E4M3 range, so the kernel produced non-finite output. This is a scale-calibration failure before it is a general training-divergence failure.
- The decisive evidence is the first log line that precedes "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" and differs from a healthy run.
- A nearby failure remains a competing hypothesis until a control separates configuration, capacity, transport, and hardware causes.
The fix and how to prevent it
Searchable error signature
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The fix and the prevention pattern
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Why the recommended fix works
reject the non-finite step, restore the last finite checkpoint, and run the batch in BF16 while recording the FP8 amax and scale values. This changes the condition in the causal diagnosis instead of hiding the outer exception. The repeated control proves ownership before recovery from last checkpoint before the first FP8 non-finite result.
Code examples
# Preserve evidence before restarting
rg -n -i 'error|exception|timeout|failed' <log-file>
nvidia-smi
python -m torch.utils.collect_env
# Find the exact signature in the complete log
rg -n -F -- "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" <log-file>Adapt the snippet to your framework. The same pattern holds for PyTorch Lightning, Hugging Face Trainer, DeepSpeed, Megatron-LM, and vLLM training wrappers. Where the wrapper exposes a config flag (for examplelr_scheduler_type in Trainer), prefer the flag over the imperative API to keep the schedule declarative and reproducible.
Best practices by model family
| Model / Stack | Recommendation | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| First response | Preserve the first failure | Keep the context before "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" so aggregation does not erase causality. |
| Confirmation | Change one variable | Use a known-good node, rank, input, or configuration as the control. |
| Recovery | Resume from last checkpoint before the first FP8 non-finite result | Resume only after the literal signature no longer appears in the same control. |
With the fix vs without the fix
| Dimension | With the fix | Without the fix |
|---|---|---|
| Evidence | First preceding error and one controlled comparison | Only the final aggregated exception |
| Fix | reject the non-finite step, restore the last finite checkpoint, and run the batch in BF16 while recording the FP8 amax and scale values. | Retrying the unchanged workload |
| Exit criterion | "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" is absent in the repeated control | The job happened to run once |
Diagnostic note
“Treat "flash_attn_func produced all NaN values scale factor reciprocal overflowed FP8 E4M3 range" as a search key and an investigation checkpoint, not as proof of every cause associated with the phrase. The high-value evidence is what changed immediately before it and whether the failure follows the workload, node, or configuration.”
Visual fingerprint
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+-- follows node ------> inspect hardware or platform
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Frequently asked questions
Questions engineers and on-call staff commonly ask about this failure.
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