Weight Divergence Across Ranks
Weight divergence silently corrupts distributed training. Denpex detects divergence by comparing per-rank weight snapshots.
Weight divergence silently corrupts distributed training.
- Root cause
- Asymmetric gradient accumulation. Non-deterministic operations across devices. BN running stats not synchronized.
- Recommended fix
- Enable torch.use_deterministic_algorithms(True)
- How Denpex helps
- Denpex investigates Weight Divergence Across Ranks using the evidence you provide or your connected workload collects. Earlier rank, host or application evidence is needed to distinguish an initiating failure from a downstream report.
What this failure is
Weight Divergence Across Ranks is a Training Stability failure seen during ML training runs. Weight divergence silently corrupts distributed training. Denpex detects divergence by comparing per-rank weight snapshots. Common tags: Weight Divergence, Ddp","Fsdp, Determinism, Distributed.
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Why it happens (the mechanism)
Asymmetric gradient accumulation. Non-deterministic operations across devices. BN running stats not synchronized. Random seed not synchronized. Taken together, these mechanisms explain why the failure is reproducible, why it tends to surface on specific workloads or scales, and why generic mitigation attempts often fall short without addressing the underlying cause.
What you'll observe
- Model metrics degrade without explicit error
- Loss improves on some ranks while degrading on others
- Validation accuracy diverges between runs
Common symptoms and what they mean
| Symptom | Why it happens |
|---|---|
| Per-rank loss values diverge by >10% | Asymmetric gradient accumulation |
| Gradient norm histograms are bimodal | Non-deterministic operations across devices |
| Checkpoint weights differ beyond precision tolerance | BN running stats not synchronized |
Which systems are affected
- DDP and FSDP training
- Pipeline and tensor parallel training
- Multi-node distributed training
How to confirm this is the problem
Use this checklist to test the hypothesis against a small reproduction. No single line proves the root cause, so preserve the preceding events and compare one variable at a time.
- ✓Reproduce the failure from a clean checkpoint/seed: the symptom must appear without warm-up state from a previous run.
- ✓Verified signal present: Per-rank loss values diverge by >10%
- ✓Verified signal present: Gradient norm histograms are bimodal
- ✓Verified signal present: Checkpoint weights differ beyond precision tolerance
- ✓A targeted fix from the "How to fix it" section eliminates or substantially reduces the symptom within one validation pass.
Root cause
- Asymmetric gradient accumulation
- Non-deterministic operations across devices
- BN running stats not synchronized
- Random seed not synchronized
The fix and how to prevent it
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